Line Art Desired Functionality

Line Art Desired Functionality

This is just a list of functions we want to implement into Line Art in the future.

Crease lines by using smoothing groups

Pencil line 001.png

Status:

Already in LineArt. Can be done using edge groups.

Discussion:

ZedDB: Does LineArt support Freestyle face marks? Perhaps we could do something like: "Only do crease lines inside (or outside) of marked faces" https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/render/freestyle/parameter_editor/line_set.html#face-marks

Line at material borders

Pencil line 002.png

Status:

Already supported

Intersection lines for objects that are not visible on render

Pencil line 003.png

Status:

Intersection lines are supported, but not currently from hidden geometry.

Discussion:

Yiming: If we need exact illustration as shown in the image, we need to implement a "intersection only" flag to hide the intersection object.

Line thickness is affected by distance from camera

Pencil line 007b.png

Status:

This is already supported

Discussion:

Yiming: GPencil shader could improve something regards the configurability of that.

Lines that stop a bit before their actual end point

Pencil line 005 c.png

The outline shape is unaffected.

In the example here, the effect is done by using mesh intersections.

Status:

We have a line length modifier but some more investigation is needed to see if we can get nice results.

Discussion:

Yiming: Probably need some sort of weight and type selection for influenced area. (e.g. in the example image it only shortens crease lines)

Easy creation of lines on subdiv surfaces

Pencil line 006 a.png Pencil line 006 b2.png Pencil line 006 c2.png

I other programs that does not have edge marks, you need to do workarounds to create line on (for example) a cylinder with a subdiv modifier on it.

Status:

This is not an issue for us currently as the edge marks do not affect the final shape of the mesh. So we can simply use edge marks here to define where we want the strokes to be.

Discussion:

Yiming: We might need an additional feature that specify only to show material separation line between specific material pairs.

ZedDB: Yes, I agree. It might be nice to have the ability to specify that you want strokes generated on the border between material A and B, but not between material A and C or B and C.

Morphing lines on deformed surfaces

Desired line 001.png

Status:

Workflow proposal still pending.

Discussion:

Yiming: If the artist only edits the original stroke/texture, then we need some sort of projection, either UV or directional. In my opinion this depends on how you are gonna want to do the animation. Currently the best method for the artist would involve texture tracing on code side.

ZedDB: The artists could also have multiple object and a do thing using a surface deform modifier. But if there is a lot of shapes, then this will be quite cumbersome...

K and Q: In the example is just a 'A' to 'B' tranformation. But specically, this is used for facial wrinkles. I would be happy if I could increase or decrease the lines during the animation.

Line shading in response with lighting

Image 1.png Screenshot.1.png

Status:

Grease Pencil supports getting shading from the scene. However in this case it will probably be quite tricky to have the shadows on the mesh nicely transfer over to the strokes.

Discussion:

Yiming: Currently enable "use lighting" in corresponding GPencil layer would do the trick. Anything more than that would require some more development, and also some approximation strategy. One of the problem is how to determine whether a line is illuminated or shaded if the line itself is the separation. "Shading" with specified color in shaded region require more development. Probably with a "main light ray tracing" method or use some sort of composition mask.

Texture outline strokes

Image 2.png

Status:

Not currently supported.

Discussion:

Yiming: Tricky to do, but achievable.

ZedDB: Perhaps we can use potrace for this?

Reduced details on distant objects

For characters, only some predetermined lines should vanish.

Image 3.png

Status:

Currently not supported

Discussion:

Yiming: Some discussion pointed out that one of the way to do this is maybe with weighted mesh that tells the renderer to "fade out" some lines.

K and Q:

Sometimes you want it to be dynamic and sometimes you don't. In the sample image, I've left only the outline, but that's not always the case.

In some cases, as in the image, I'll erase a line every single line. In the case of a character, I've erased the lines of some parts of the character, such as the eyes, nose, and clothing decorations, to make the lines less dense and so it does hide the underlying colors.


It may already be supported ( MarkFreestyleEdge? I'm sorry if I'm wrong), how does it behave when you animate? Will the transparency be animated? Will it be animated in thickness?

Outlines

Status:

Currently not supported

Discussion:

Yiming: Need either another round of computation or more memory, probably both. (This is due to the nature of the algorithm).

Object shown inside a window

Status:

LineArt TransparencyWindow 1.png LineArt TransparencyWindow 2.png

Supported as of 0816. Currently allow up to 8 different "window" materials and their combinations.

Discussion:

Already have data structure to do so, but the region selection part is still tricky.

Added one more byte in each triangle and line structures, might not be ideal but we can squeeze more memory out of them later.

Details on specific topics

Line visibility calculation order

I think the main problem is that their method can't really handle subdivision geometry so they calculate lines in low poly and once the surface is subdivided, the surface is out of alignment with pre-existing lines. Or, they are not able to preserve edge marks after subdiv? Opinions?

LANPR handles geometry and intersections pretty robustly so I don't really think this is a problem on our side.

Morhping lines on deformed surfaces

I think the main problem is rigging method. We need to have a preferred method of projecting the pattern, then the tracing solution is straightforward.